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punkusmartyrus 18 ( +1 | -1 )
Zwischenzug? Did I implement a true Zwischenzug w/ move 30...Qe4+ instead of just 30....Rxc1+?

From the game: board #3595719
premium_steve 27 ( +1 | -1 )
i would say so.
looks like an in-between move to me. 30...Qe4+ comes between as a bit of a surprise to your opponent, instead of the natural 30...Rxc1.
but when 31...Rxc1 comes a move later it has greater effect - it wins a whole rook because the king cannot recapture.
punkusmartyrus 3 ( +1 | -1 )
ok, I wasn't sure. thanx:)
ionadowman 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Zwischenzug.... I'm not so sure about your final move being a zwischenzug, exactly, since it is an integral part of your concluding sequence. However, your 17th ...Qxg5+! does have an 'in between' look about it, rather than the immediate 17...Bxe4. What gives it its zwischenzug aesthetic is that the WQ can not save itself by blocking the check. Very neat! Cheers, Ion
mightytiny 47 ( +1 | -1 )
I'm not sure that a move in a clear mating attack, or a tactical manouvre would be correctly labled as zwischenzug - at least I would rather say that zwischenzug is a kind of a position where there's not necessarily a quick mating pattern, or a quick way to win material through a tactic, but the situation is such that while nothing may immediately lose to a tactic, the opponent has no available move that would improve - or even avoid worstening his position.
ionadowman 53 ( +1 | -1 )
Zwischenzug... or zugszwang? I suspect mightytiny might be describing the latter. A zwischenzug is a move that comes between one move and its (apparently) logical response. E.g. I make a capture, but my opponent does not make the immediate recapture, but makes another move to which I must respond (!)(which is why it is often a check), before reverting to the recapture. Often this zwischenzug improves the effect of the recapture. Seen in this light, in pinkusmartyrus's game, Black's move 17 and move 30 can be termed zwischenzugen (what the plural for zwischenzug??). Cheers, Ion
mightytiny 22 ( +1 | -1 )
Well, they both begin wiht Z, and are long words! How's an average joe like me supposed to tell the difference with big words like that? :P

Thanks for correcting me... had a little brain hickup there. :)
ccmcacollister 53 ( +1 | -1 )
On the other hand ... A ZWIFENZUG is when you have one hand on the doorknob and one foot out the door on your way to a Chess tournament and your spouse taps your shoulder and says 'But darling, you were going to mow today!' ...
Interesting question. Wish the library didnt repo my Oxford Chess Companion. I've always thought of zwishenzug being when a capture has been made and instead of
directly recapturing a different move is made that allows the recapture to be returned to after it. Qe4+ certainly looks like one.
Well done }8-)
misato 90 ( +1 | -1 )
All German words The only German chess-word I knew so far was "Blitz" (= lightning), now this amount increased by 200%!

"Zugzwang" (force to move) is pronounced TSOOGTSVUNG and means that you don't want to do anything (make a move) but you must, and this "must" makes things worse (very important in endgames). It is used in politics as well, a decision has to be made - but no matter what it is, you are already aware about the disadvantages.

"Zwischenzug" (move between) is pronounced TSVISHENTSOOG and was perfectly described by ionadowman. The plural is "Zwischenzüge", but I don't know an English word to describe the sound of "ü" (turkey would be wrong, this is close to the "ö").

Similar to "Zugzwang" in German other chess-words are also used in non-chess-environment (often politics):
"Zeitnot" (time trouble),
"Bauernopfer" (pawn-sacrifice),
"Hängepartie" (interrupted game to be continued later),
"Patt" (stale-mate),
and "Matt" (mate), of course!
alberlie 5 ( +1 | -1 )
and, the plural of Zwischenzug is Zwischenzüge. But Zwischenzugen is a good try ;)
ionadowman 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Spelling... Thanks alberlie and misato for the info! :-) I had half an idea afterwards that the 'n' shouldn't be there, and I having seen the word for 'move' written 'zueg', thought an umlaut might possibly be in order. Can't do it on this machine, tho'... I have seen 'zeitnot' before - used to be one of my OTB problems...
alberlie 28 ( +1 | -1 )
oh, there more!! Never heard something like "moving h6, making luft for his king?"

And the "ü" is pronounced relatively similar to the "y" in Syria, mystery and any such words. Try explaining the 'soft' ch ;o) I failed my whole year to make someone pronounce my name even remotely close to the original :o))
mattdw 34 ( +1 | -1 )
punkusmartyrus, may I ask what happened to your rating around March this year? I have seen it a few times where players with a normal rating drops to ratings as low as 600, was there something wrong with the elo system? You seemed to be losing too many points when you were playing higher rated players.
alberlie 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Look at the number of timeouts he had. Maybe that explains it? ;o)
punkusmartyrus 10 ( +1 | -1 )
TIMEOUTS.. it most certainly was in march as I timed 100 games due to homelessness, so is the life of a hectic chess player:P